is it racist to believe that a group of people are capable of behaving like normal human beings and therefore be critical of their behavior when they dont behave like normal human beings (spitting, crapping, litering all over the place, complete total disregard for human life when it comes to food and traffic "safety")?
i will draw a parallel
in the states i have seen some liberals always defending the awful acts of some black criminals and i would scratch my head as to why? then i realized sth about these kinds of people they probably harbor the belief that blacks aren't capable of behaving like civilized human beings and therefore should be excused.
i came to china expecting to experience the rich culture of china. instead soo much filth , racism (even towards each other), deception and inhumane behavior.
is it wrong to point out these things as thing that can be fixed or should it be ignored because "maybe this is the best they can do"
"but there is a difference american society does not accept it (sadly in casey athony's case the jury did not do their job) , it's acceptable behavior here. but there is an overall acceptance that life has no value when it comes to certain people."
See, there's the fucking problem. He says the Chinese freely accept it, but if he knew more than one Chinese word, he'd realize the full-on moral panic that occurs in China every time something like that happens. It's all anyone ever talks about. People scream and yell and cry in the streets when stuff like this happens. But to crimo it's all "ching chong bing bong."
Do you see what I'm getting here Ichickman? He brags about only knowing one word of Chinese, but he doesn't understand a single thing the Chinese are saying, so he just fills in the gaps by himself, and assumes the worst. In this case, he filled it with the most tired anti-Chinese stereotype in the book, one from the 1800s when America was covered in those "Stop Yellow Fever" signs. Back when they were saying whites were a different species, except for Irish, who are actually "Pale-skinned nigros." If he actually bothered to pay attention to the people he's always criticizing, he'd realize what a big complex society this is. He seriously thinks all the Chinese are going "Rape kill little Child! So fun! Oh my lady gaga super cool funny times!" or something.
You know how localla pisses you all off by making stuff up about foreigners that are obviously completely untrue, and just a mix of her imagination and anti-foreigner stereotypees, and we know this because our experiences as westerners, but there's just no getting through her thick skull? That's how I feel about crimo. Except localla is rarely around and doesn't shit all over every single thread like crimo does.
Yes, it is. But that's mostly because to make generalisations about entire groups of people based on the actions of some (or even most), is by definition 'discrimination', and when that group is a particular ethnicity, then the discrimination is 'racist'.
As said previously, your attitudes are different to others. You even said it yourself - "normal people". What's a "normal person"? Was a Spartan "normal", even though we would now view many of their behaviours as cruel and barbaric. Do "normal people" leave disabled or sickly children in the snow or wilderness for the wolves? This was 'normal' not that long ago...
But, just making an observation about a particular action, and expressing your abhorrence with that action, is not in itself 'racist'. Nor even 'discriminatory'... until you say (eg) "spitting is a disgusting habit, I've seen Chinese people do it. You're a Chinese person - therefore you are disgusting". It's like the difference on this (and other) forum - attack the post, not the person.
I think, however, that the argument grows murky when there is an adopted position, and it's not countered in any particular way. For example, if a particular organisation adopts the position of defending the actions of ALL black criminals (to continue with your example), and it is their official policy, then it's fine to say "All members of that group are XYZ".
On a related topic - morals! Are you an 'Absolutist' or a 'Relativist'??
I don't think its racist, maybe discriminatory. Like HappyExpat said, I think ones way of life and views can be different from others. You, are wearing your glasses of how humans "should" behave when you see them. Imagine what they are seeing when they see you.
this statement however:
{in the states i have seen some liberals always defending the awful acts of some black criminals and i would scratch my head as to why? then i realized sth about these kinds of people they probably harbor the belief that blacks aren't capable of behaving like civilized human beings and therefore should be excused}
might seem racist
I will give you my opinion for whatever is good. You may find them to be racists, and in turn they may find you to be something else.
You are judging them from your standards' point of view, not from theirs. What could be common acceptable behavior for them, could be totally unacceptable to you.
I do agree a with a total disregard for others' lives when driving, by blowing the horn whatever they do afterwards is fine. Yet, I still try hard not to judge them when I thing that back in USA we drive at 50 to 60 miles per hour, and here in city limits is 40 Kms/hr the maximum speed. Also, we probably have around 100 years of driving experience as a nation, and here is less than 15 or 20 years.
I have found that I am happier if I do not pay so much attention to many details, and accept others as they are, not as I wish they were.